While You're At It, Ask For a Pony, Too.

"As soon as Iraq stabilizes..." CRAP!
"Well, we're there now so..." MORE CRAP!
"We can't leave..." TOTAL B.S.!!
I'm sorry, did that confuse you? Inside the quotes are phrases that I hear everyday. The All caps stuff is what every single person who hears those words should be saying in response to them. Still confused? Well, I hate to break it to you, but Iraq is not going to stabilize as long as Coalition troops are within it's borders.
Here's why. Forget right and wrong, or who's fault it is that we are there. We'll get back to that in a minute. No matter which side you are on, the facts are:
Iraq was invaded and occupied by US and UK forces.
Iraqis are a nationalistic people.
Any government put into power by the occupation will be viewed as treasonous by the Iraqis.
Any government put into power by a political system designed by the occupation will be viewed as treasonous by the Iraqis.
Any government in power and defended by the occupation will be viewed as treasonous by the Iraqis.
Any government in power while occupational forces are in Iraq will be viewed as treasonous by the Iraqis.
Why? Well, would we think anything else if we were invaded and occupied? No.
So, my point is this. Go ahead and have all the free elections you want. Celebrate the political activities to your hearts content. And while your fantasizing all of that, pretend you have a nice new pony to play with, also. Might as well, its just as real as the rest of the dream.

If we leave Iraq today- 50,000 people will die in the ensuing chaos that comes with a nation forming.
If we leave tomorrow- 50k plus whoever dies tonight.
If we leave a year from now- 50k plus all those who die in that year.
If we leave 10 years from now- 50k plus 10 years worth of ever increasing blood shed.

Get the point?

Oh and this War was wrong, stupid and the Bush administrations fault. It was ran by investment driven corporations, their puppets in the White House and an incompetent bunch of strategists led by Donald Rums-failed.

You want a talking point for this year?
The military has 2 jobs.
1) Kill people.
2) Break stuff.

How can nation building be accomplished using only those 2 abilities?

Ask anyone you talk to who promotes keeping our military in Iraq. Keep asking them till they come up with an answer or they come to reality.